WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.800 Good morning and welcome to AM. I'm Sabra Laine, coming to you from Nipaluna, Hobart. 00:00:06.800 --> 00:00:15.060 On today's program, tech giants forced to pay artists, musicians and authors if they use their work to train artificial intelligence models. 00:00:15.060 --> 00:00:26.440 Basically what they're saying is we will not agree to dilute and weaken our copyright laws so that a small number of very large tech companies can have free and open access to very important and valuable cultural works. 00:00:26.720 --> 00:00:33.540 And an Australian rules team on the brink of history after equaling the longest winning streak in both the men's and women's game. 00:00:33.540 --> 00:00:48.540 Pedophiles have infiltrated Australia's $22 billion childcare industry by exploiting lax regulation through piecemeal oversight and glaring staffing inadequacies. 00:00:49.760 --> 00:01:00.840 A Four Corners investigation uncovered almost 150 former childcare workers convicted or accused of sexual offences against children with more than a dozen currently before the courts. 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:04.920 And this follows a previous Four Corners exposé in March. 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:06.660 Adele Ferguson reports. 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:10.680 Australia's childcare system is being targeted by predators. 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:21.020 A major Four Corners investigation has identified 148 childcare workers alleged or convicted of child sexual abuse or inappropriate conduct. 00:01:21.020 --> 00:01:24.180 The scale of the crisis has been hidden from the public. 00:01:24.780 --> 00:01:36.260 We've found, right now, there are 14 people facing charges, like 26-year-old Joshua Brown, accused of 73 offences, including sexually penetrating children. 00:01:36.260 --> 00:01:42.600 Nearly three-quarters of the alleged unproven offending occurred at for-profit services. 00:01:42.600 --> 00:01:45.400 And these numbers are the tip of the iceberg. 00:01:45.600 --> 00:01:52.220 Many, many, many, many cases drop out before they reach the stage where you would say it's in the official records. 00:01:52.220 --> 00:01:56.680 84% of victims never disclose their sexual abuse in their entire life. 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:59.240 So we think we're capturing just a small amount. 00:01:59.240 --> 00:02:06.940 That's Dr. Michael Burke, a world-leading forensic psychologist who's interviewed more than 1,200 child sex offenders. 00:02:06.940 --> 00:02:13.260 In terms of how pervasive they are, do we have any idea how big this is? 00:02:13.480 --> 00:02:19.220 Estimates range from 1% to 5% of society have some sort of sexual interest in children. 00:02:19.220 --> 00:02:21.140 That's a scary number. 00:02:21.140 --> 00:02:27.720 That means out of every 100 people in that church or in that neighbourhood or in your workplace, 00:02:27.720 --> 00:02:30.480 there's someone that has a sexual interest in children. 00:02:30.480 --> 00:02:32.700 And that's prepubescent children. 00:02:32.700 --> 00:02:37.000 Over the years, likely many thousands have got away with it. 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:43.800 Professor of Criminology, Michael Salter, specialises in the study of organised sexual abuse. 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:49.880 He says insufficient staffing at childcare centres is enabling predators to abuse kids. 00:02:49.880 --> 00:02:51.980 The offenders are giving us the picture. 00:02:51.980 --> 00:02:53.800 They're painting the picture for us. 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:59.520 The offenders are choosing early childcare as a conducive place for the abuse of children. 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:02.060 So the offenders are speaking for us. 00:03:02.060 --> 00:03:04.360 They are telling us that we have a massive problem. 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:11.220 This year, state and federal governments have announced a range of reforms to childcare they say will help protect kids. 00:03:11.220 --> 00:03:12.700 Adele Ferguson there. 00:03:12.700 --> 00:03:18.540 And if this story has raised concerns for you or anyone you know, you can call Lifeline on 13 11 14. 00:03:18.540 --> 00:03:25.100 And you can see Adele's report on Four Corners tonight on ABC TV at 8.30 or on ABC's iView. 00:03:25.600 --> 00:03:35.000 The federal government's decided the big tech companies should pay Australian authors and creatives for copyrighted material used to train artificial intelligence computer models. 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:38.600 The government's main economic advisor, the Productivity Commission...