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Pure Evoke Flow – see it working

Posted on Friday, August 22nd, 2008 at 2:49am. #

Update: Got questions? Got a Pure Evoke Flow? Visit flowusers.com and join the community!

So, yesterday, I was lucky enough to be at the launch of a brand new radio – the Pure Evoke Flow. As a disclaimer, they laid on a nice breakfast, in a nice location, and have given me a radio to test out. But I am under no obligation to be nice to them. With that in mind…

You remember the Pure Evoke-1? The first under-£100 DAB radio, that kick-started DAB in the UK? Well, this is their first DAB/wifi radio.

It comes with the newer, eco-friendly, power adapter that you’ll be familiar with from Pure’s latest radios. It’s the same shape as the Evoke-1, but finished in a glossy piano-black (the same glossy piano-black as the back of the new iPhone 3G). It feels solidly built – there’s wood underneath all that lacquer, so it still has the lovely, sonorous sound of the Evoke. And the box it’s in is lovely – a fold-out panel on the front with loads of carefully-written detail on the product you’re about to buy. This enables what the retailer sitting next to me describes as “self-selection” – i.e. a person browsing and reading the info on the box. (Note to retailers: I would always much rather see the box rather than your in-store price cards).

The screen is good-looking – an OLED not an LCD – though the look and feel of the menus is not much changed from the older Legato II. Leave it a while and it goes into screen-saving mode (I think this is to avoid burnin); tap the snooze handle and the proper display comes back.

Turn it on, and it does a good job of setup. Switch into DAB mode for the first time, and it does an autotune to discover available stations. Switch into wifi mode for the first time, and it shows you all available wifi connections (and doesn’t bother you with WPA/WEP stuff). Enter your key and you’re in. I forgot my key a few times; it appears quite lenient.

I’ve had one wifi radio before – a very early model – so it’s not particularly fair to compare the two. But the Pure is quick; it’s incredibly easy to navigate; and it works well. There are no herarchies of menus – if you want stations in spanish playing jazz in Argentina, then it’s quick and simple to do a search for them. Some inconsistencies aside, I think Pure have done a good job with the user interface. Particularly impressive are the ‘soft keys’, which change depending on the function you’re attempting to perform. The buttons are flat and unyielding – and only light up when they can be used.

DAB works as you’d expect; I haven’t tested FM reception yet. The system also plays media files from your computer (as yet untested too), but it’s The Lounge which is the cleverest thing. Instead of buying in their wifi technology from others, Pure have designed everything inhouse, including their own internet radio portal (which you’ll be able to use at www.thelounge.co.uk www.thelounge.com without a radio).

It’s difficult to explain how quick and responsive the radio is for wifi as a result; so, in the 90-second video above, you’ll see me doing the following things:

1. Turning the unit on
2. Listening to DAB (Radio 2)
3. Going to the wifi radio
4. Seeing it tune into an 80s station I’ve been listening to
5. Looking through the station directory
6. Hitting search to find Virgin Radio stations (old habits, etc)
7. Tuning in to Virgin Radio Italia
8. And finally switching it off.

It also has a few more ludicrous things: something called Pure Sounds, so you can lull yourself to sleep with natural sounds like a rainforest or a the hubbub in a small street in North London (I call the latter my slightly open window). This was excitedly pointed out in the press briefing; I don’t see the excitement, frankly. Might be interesting to accept user-produced sounds, so I can wake up to my nephew and niece playing, or to the sound of a favourite place.

I’ve not yet had a chance to play with The Lounge website, which adds some degree of personalisation to the unit (it’s currently not quite ready for us ‘press’ people to see). Pure plans click-to-buy for radio stations later in the year, and mysteriously also plans tagging (which I guess is a public commitment to the project Nick Piggott and I are working on, which is delightful).

For the techies – the unit has Linux inside it (that bit’s apparently entirely open source), and a portion of the inside gubbins runs on Pure’s own proprietary platform (which isn’t open at all). The getting-started instruction book even warns you that the initial switchon requires a little time (since the radio needs to boot). And no, you’re not getting a full manual with the unit; if the pre-production unit’s anything to go by, you’ll need to download, via PDF, the proper manual from thelounge.co.uk. It annoys me when manufacturers do this, being honest, and Pure get a wag of the finger for it.

Small irritations are that the antenna is no longer connected by an F-connector, and is screwed onto the unit (I have a roof antenna, but no, I can’t use it); that turning the unit off requires two keypresses; that the interface isn’t 100% intuitive with some inconsistencies (but you get the hang of it fairly quickly); that the set shows oily fingers easily. However, these are minor irritations, and they don’t spoil it.

The marketing man from Pure said that this was the best product they’d ever made; and I’m inclined to agree.

It’s in shops in September, and the suggested retail price is £150.

29 comments

gavin
commenting at August 22nd, 2008 at 4:53am

Thanks James. I want one. Does it do DAB+ out of the box?

almost witty
commenting at August 22nd, 2008 at 10:44am

Actually, as someone who loves the sound of the city but can never get it even when I *live* in a city, the notion of Pure Sounds sounds almost cool. Not necessarily cool enough for me to splash out £150 mind you. I have a DAB radio – and I still end up listening to FM stations most of the time.

James Cridland
commenting at August 22nd, 2008 at 1:02pm

It does do DAB+, incidentally, out of the box.

I think that in DAB+ territories, all new Pure units do DAB+ out of the box, and that they’re firmware upgradeable in DAB territories like the UK.

Rob Lawrence
commenting at August 22nd, 2008 at 2:50pm

I’m the proud owner of a Roberts WM-201 wi-fi radio, which I use with reciva.com — and love to bits. And — until it was relgated to a spare bedroom — was always happy with my first DAB radio, a Pure Evoke-1.

Looks likes this combines the best features of each — for a lot less than the Roberts sells for.

Scrolling around menus with the volume control (?) reminds me of the Roberts. Presumbaly you the idea is that you set up presets on thelounge.com through your PC?

The only glitch I’ve had with the Roberts / Reciva set-up is that, sometimes, when listening to podcasts I’ve subscribed to — they will stall, buffer, time-out and then begin again from the start: very annoying! Hopefully not a problem for ‘the Flow’

James Cridland
commenting at August 22nd, 2008 at 3:01pm

You can set presets on the radio too; it works fine with no connection to The Lounge if you don’t want.

The Evoke family have two rotary controls – a volume and a tuning knob. The tuning knob is the menu.

Not tried podcasts yet.

Alan Taylor
commenting at August 22nd, 2008 at 6:09pm

Does it handle Real codec?, if not. it will be rubbished by the big “R”

Ben
commenting at August 23rd, 2008 at 2:06am

Your website address is wrong – it’s www.thelounge.com

.co.uk goes to a market research viewing company thingy wotsit.

The Vicar
commenting at August 23rd, 2008 at 1:44pm

It looks very nice, but everything I saw you do in your video, can be done with my £60 Binatone Tranciva from Argos.

Does it display metadata for internet stations which provide it? i.e. Does it show song title and artist? That’s something the Tranciva can’t do

James Cridland
commenting at August 26th, 2008 at 3:47pm

Update on the DAB+ thing… my spies tell me that the hardware’s capable, and it’ll come in the first full release for the box. It’ll be a free upgrade within a few months of the unit being available, apparently (and the upgrade happens over wifi).

So, for you Australians out there, it’ll work by the time you get your hands on it. Yay.

Graham Brown
commenting at August 26th, 2008 at 10:30pm

Hi James, I’ve been getting tempted by Internet Radio and in particular this model, as I live in an area with poor DAB receiption, could you clarify two things:

1) can you confirm that it plays BBC stations (i.e. Radio 4) via the Internet function not just DAB
2) if it has an alarm function

Thanks for your hard work.

dumbledad
commenting at August 27th, 2008 at 12:21pm

These internet radio thingies – do they do the BBC “listen Again” or is it only streaming media?

James Cridland
commenting at August 29th, 2008 at 9:27pm

If you’ve got questions about the Pure Evoke Flow, you might find the following website handy: http://flowusers.com/

Gareth
commenting at August 31st, 2008 at 11:45am

Sleep function?

Tracey Payne
commenting at September 9th, 2008 at 9:55am

Will it work with an imac

James Cridland
commenting at September 14th, 2008 at 12:04pm

For the avoidance of doubt: I run flowusers.com – have been asked to make that clear. I’ll also add that to the disclosure.

Autopilot
commenting at September 22nd, 2008 at 12:20pm

Nice product, i like the UI and screen. But i think a Squeezebox Boom is far FAR better device and text input for searches will be like pulling teeth after a while. No DAB in the Boom – but unless you have an unreliable net connection, why have both? Still, very nice and i think it will be a gig seller :)

Pure Evoke Flow - what it means for radio - blog - James Cridland
commenting at December 7th, 2008 at 3:50pm

[...] a long while ago, I excitedly blogged about the Pure Evoke Flow: showing you how the thing worked, and letting you know a few initial [...]

schooliz
commenting at January 3rd, 2009 at 3:21pm

the most exciting reason for me, it’s eco-friendly. that’s all, the rest features are second…consideration

Brian
commenting at July 6th, 2009 at 10:22am

Does anyone know how to cure a problem with the Evoke Flow’s alarm? This is my second, brand new, Evoke Flow. I sent the first one back thinking it was defective and I’m contemplating doing this again. The issue is if you set the alarm and then try to switch off the unit by tapping the “ok” button as prompted, it freezes displaying the words “switching off”. It doesn’t and you have to disconnect it at the mains, power it up and then switch it off, which it seems to prefer. Any ideas? Brian

Sjur Lien
commenting at July 28th, 2009 at 8:16am

I got a strange problem with my Pure Flow; It’s impossible to turn off if power cord is not attached!
With powercord inserted, it goes to clock/charging mode after poweroff. But at poweroff while on battery, display goes dark ( which is good ), but seconds later the radio reboots and starts playing.
It replies no updates availavble when trying to update. SW is ver 1.5.
Anyone had similar problems ?
Sjur

i bats
commenting at October 6th, 2009 at 4:48pm

I am driven mad trying to play my iTunes list on evoke flow. Track are randomly played so frequently it starts in the middle of something or towards the end. Any help please.
IBBB

Alan
commenting at October 15th, 2009 at 9:30pm

Can someone tell me how to turn the F”"”"”"king alarm off please. I seem to have set it for 7 a.m. and dont want it!

Stephen
commenting at November 12th, 2009 at 6:16pm

Has anyone here come across an annoying problem with the Evoke Flow? If the radio is switched on from standby it just refuses to connect to any internet stations. But if you pull out the power cable and reinsert it, it works just fine. Pure support told me to reset the radio and that fixed the problem for a few hours then it came back. It is not intermittent – it happens *all* the time you start it from standby. It is a real bummer as I really like the radio but I can’t use it like this – so it’s back to the shop for a refund. Anyone know what the Roberts internet radio is like?

Manuel
commenting at December 12th, 2009 at 6:49pm

Has anyone had any problems with Pure Flow when upgraded to the new ver.1.7?
I tried everything to connect to the lounge with this new version without any success!
To make things even worse the independent site FLOWUSERS closed the same day of the upgrade !!
The last resort was to reinstall ver.1.5 via USB.It was like magic a few settings after the installation I was again streaming music from the Lounge.
The funny thing is when the radio is plugged to the mains it upgrades by itself. But at least on batteries does not upgrade automatically.
Since I found this website, I am sharing my views about this matter.
Any solutions better than mine will be very much appreciated
Thanks

richard dunn
commenting at December 15th, 2009 at 10:22am

I am having problems since upgrading to 1.7. I can’t change FM channels without my radio resetting itself. Internet and Dab radio appear to be working ok. I have also noticed that the touchscreen and knob controls are quite laggy since upgrading. I have reported it to pure support, and I’m going to try rolling back th firmware to 1.5 to see if that fixes the issue.

jonno
commenting at December 16th, 2009 at 11:35pm

For anyone who’s interested, a new forum http://www.yournetradio.com has risen from the ashes of flowusers.com

ROBBIECBER
commenting at December 23rd, 2009 at 11:31pm

Hi all.
i am starting a new web site on yahoo.
its called evoke flow.
thanks Robbie and a merry Christmas to you all

Phil Hitchen
commenting at January 17th, 2010 at 4:35pm

Hi all.

How apt: “what happens when radio and new platforms collide”. With the Evoke Flow what happens is you get all excited and then really disappointed because the software is poorly designed and badly tested. After trying Podcast for the first time my Evoke Flow screen has gone blank and I can do nothing with it. Apart from that I love it.

Anyone else had this problem?

Thanks

Phil Hitchen

Augustin
commenting at April 25th, 2010 at 1:42pm

Hello,

Nice description. I’m looking for an Internet Radio that can record radio shows…like old radio-cassete players. I searched on the internet and i couldn’t find. Maybe this function has another name now…i don’t know….

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