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NPR – doing everything right

Posted on Tuesday, November 24th, 2009 at 10:23am. #

NPR headquarters

Think! Question! Connect! say the banners atop NPR‘s headquarters in Washington DC, as I beckon the taxi driver to stop. (I can’t help it. I think of Stop! Look! Listen! – and a slightly odd West-Country sounding Dave Prowse telling me to be careful when crossing the road. Must get that out of my head.)

NPR – National Public Radio – produces and provides programmes to 797 radio stations in the US – both news programmes, but also some entertainment programmes too. NPR stations are all non-commercial, and revenue is raised by sponsor credits (‘underwriting spots’) and listener donations, as well as grants from universities, state governments, and around 11% of its revenue comes via the CPB, which is mainly goverment funded.

NPR is the closest that US radio gets to BBC radio – but with a difference. NPR reaches 27.5 million people each week – that’s 12% of the total adults in the US – with expenditure of around £64million per year. The BBC, on the other hand, reaches 33.5 million people each week – 65% total adults – with expenditure of, well, it’s hard to say, but I’m guessing BBC radio’s figures come to around £300-400million a year. It’s already clear that NPR is punching way above its weight.

I sit down with Andy Carvin, a man important enough to have his own Wikipedia entry. He tells me far too many interesting things to condense into a blog post, so here are some of the notes I took:

NPR does extensive transcripts
I’ve written before about the tremendous benefit of doing transcripts: their system involves a human checking automated output and publishing it “within a few hours” of programmes being aired. These transcripts – here’s one – make it into Google pretty quickly as a result; and stay on the site – with the audio – in perpituity. They have a team who ‘make transcripts web-friendly’: who understand that writing for the web isn’t, quite, a copy/paste job. This team’s a couple of dozen; though some of the people doing it are the reporters themselves – they understand the story best, after all.

NPR is all over user-generated-content
I’m pointed to Wonderscope: asking the audience to explain science in video form. They’re using YouTube as their upload mechanism (and were a launch partner for the YouTube API with Google). Uploading a new video, as a result, does not involve leaving the NPR website; yet will still result in my work, if I entered, appearing on YouTube anyway. Nicely done.

NPR are open about their technologies
The way they share content with their stations is nicely advanced, and uses a number of APIs, but they’re open to sharing these standards for other people. They regularly contribute to the web as a whole – witness this article about their content management system, for example – or their discussion of their site redesign process. “Agree on technology, compete on content”? You bet.

NPR’s API is a huge asset
Produced for their partner stations, but mostly opened-up to anyone, NPR’s API is flexible and content-rich. It enables anyone to produce anything with NPR content, subject to a few terms and conditions. This comes with risks as well as rewards: NPR was itself pipped to the post when launching an iPhone app, when a part-time software writer wrote and launched NPR Addict himself. Still – it’s no matter; Andy’s view was that it made their own iPhone app better as a result.

NPR’s iPhone app is huge
Their iPhone app contains full text from their news website, as well as on-demand and live audio. It’s wonderfully done; I’ve had it since it first came out. But here’s the rub: already 33% of all of NPR’s traffic is done on iPhones – and none of this is automated requests. And while their website has a fairly average 2.5-minute average user session, their iPhone’s average user session is 15 minutes. That’s a significant traffic generator.

NPR’s audio content never times out
Seven days after broadcast? No matter – NPR’s content is still there. Indeed, their API offers access back to audio from 2001.

Perhaps one of the benefits of NPR is that it’s not too large, so can innovate without being criticised; perhaps it’s also comparatively strapped for cash, so is forced to innovate to make best use of its content. But what was surprising is that the NPR staff that talked to me after my presentation were all keen to point out how much they wanted to “be like the BBC”. Me? I’d rather the BBC was rather more like NPR: because NPR is doing everything right.

I’m grateful to Andy and his colleagues for their kindness in giving up their time to meet me.

I’m travelling round the world, meeting radio stations and sharing experiences. I’m next in Montreal, Vancouver, San Francisco, and Dallas; and in the far east after Christmas. Please do contact me if you’re in one of these cities and I can come and see you; either for a chat over a beer, or a full presentation about new media in the UK radio industry.

12 comments

Briantist
commenting at November 24th, 2009 at 2:39pm

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peter_cook
commenting at November 24th, 2009 at 3:48pm

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Ben
commenting at November 24th, 2009 at 4:04pm

Interesting stuff – especially the bit about the CMS. Its good to see the concept of COPE still alive in the face of so much effort in the opposite direction.

Talking about their mobile app – they also have one on Nokia phones, produced by some clever chaps at Apadmi, a UK based company.

The real magic is not necessarily their app, but the access to content provided by NPR via their API.

Spike Nesmith
commenting at November 25th, 2009 at 1:16am

Infrastructure-wise, it’s hard to fault NPR. It’s an astonishingly well-run organisation, even at the local levels. But I have to take exception on their doing “everything” right.

After listening to it for a decade, I can tell you that the staff were right. NPR needs to take a long, hard look at Radio 4 and the BBC’s news department and reverse-engineer them for an American audience.

Chris Mac
commenting at November 25th, 2009 at 2:37pm

Are you comparing like with like James? Basically NPR is one production house and production affiliates making one core domestic programme offering and supplying a stream of a relatively small number of programmes for its affiliates mainly in the US. Many affiliates add their own local speech or music programming around the national NPR offering. The BBC radio offering instead is 8 distinct 24×7 national domestic thematic public broadcast strands. The sheer breadth of even just Radio 4 far surpasses the range of NPR’s output, although some of those set NPR pieces are indeed very well done. I think NPR does make good use of its smaller collection of programming, much of which has not changed in years, and some of which has an element of BBC reporting and programme making within it anyway. I do think BBC R4 transcripts should be available and that 7-day timeout misses the point of online radio archives. NPR is a resource for the English-speaking world which unfortunately few beyond US shores are exposed to. I am a fan and it would be great to hear more of NPR on UK DAB for instance, if only for a slightly different view of the world. I think some BBC, RTE, Australian ABC and CBC programming is just as good and increasingly available via the web and web radios.

James Cridland
commenting at November 25th, 2009 at 2:44pm

Spike: of course, I don’t profess to be an expert on radio programming, particularly speech. I’d probably agree that NPR’s style could do with a bit of re-working.

Chris: Of course I’m not comparing like with like: except for online, where I believe the BBC has a -long- way to go to get anywhere near what NPR are doing. NPR really are showing the BBC the way to go.

4TMSocialMedia
commenting at November 26th, 2009 at 5:23pm

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Jonathan Marks
commenting at March 3rd, 2010 at 7:30am

Just been doing some travelling in the US too, and dropped by KQED one of the largest public stations in the US and operating on a combined budget of 55 million dollars a year. They get 13 million from public funds, the rest they beg for over the air. Sounds horrible, but it seems it works. Interesting that their radio audience is 35-50, their TV audience is 60+ and it is the radio audience that generates most of the cash. I think the picture they have of the Beeb is mainly based on their experience of BBC World Service programmes fed to them and programmes like their coproduction with the WGBH, The World. They told me that of their digital listening, 80% was live, 20% on demand. HD Radio listening is under 5% at the moment. Tend to agree on the NPR Style comments. It’s too 80′s for my liking – people presenting for you rather that building a conversation.

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