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	<title>Comments on: More secure Google Apps for Your Domain</title>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://james.cridland.net/blog/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/#comment-1191</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankie...I tried logging into Google Accounts with my Apps login. Couldn&#039;t get in. Apps logins are not the same as Account logins.

Seems odd that they haven&#039;t put Reader into Apps. Or maps. There are a number of other things too that aren&#039;t available in Apps. I know it&#039;s all Beta, but sometime it&#039;s got to become proper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankie&#8230;I tried logging into Google Accounts with my Apps login. Couldn&#8217;t get in. Apps logins are not the same as Account logins.</p>
<p>Seems odd that they haven&#8217;t put Reader into Apps. Or maps. There are a number of other things too that aren&#8217;t available in Apps. I know it&#8217;s all Beta, but sometime it&#8217;s got to become proper.</p>
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		<title>By: Frankie Roberto</title>
		<link>http://james.cridland.net/blog/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/#comment-1190</link>
		<dc:creator>Frankie Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick you can have Account and Apps open at the same time - just use your Google Apps e-mail address as your Google Account. It only gets confusing for applications that are available with both types of login (ie Google Docs).

You&#039;re right about syncing the calendar though - it&#039;s not that easy. There do seem to be third-party services around, but I&#039;ve not used them. Interestingly, Google seem to have recently tried to integrate the calendar with the mail services more closely.

@James might give that importing-via-IMAP a go. Seems a ridiculous hack though - should be an option to migrate/merge Gmail accounts.

Frankie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick you can have Account and Apps open at the same time &#8211; just use your Google Apps e-mail address as your Google Account. It only gets confusing for applications that are available with both types of login (ie Google Docs).</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right about syncing the calendar though &#8211; it&#8217;s not that easy. There do seem to be third-party services around, but I&#8217;ve not used them. Interestingly, Google seem to have recently tried to integrate the calendar with the mail services more closely.</p>
<p>@James might give that importing-via-IMAP a go. Seems a ridiculous hack though &#8211; should be an option to migrate/merge Gmail accounts.</p>
<p>Frankie</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://james.cridland.net/blog/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/#comment-1189</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I moved my domain to Google last week. Wasn&#039;t too complicated, as the instructions were good.

Biggest problem is that Google Reader isn&#039;t available under as an App…can only have it via a Google Account. And you can&#039;t have an Account and Apps open at the same time cause the cookie gets confused.

Other prob is that there isn&#039;t a clever way of syncing your Google Calendar to your phone&#039;s native calendar. I&#039;ve got a bodge by syncing my phone to Outlook via Activesync, and then syncing Outlook to Google, using Google&#039;s Outlook sync exe program. (which isn&#039;t clever enough to know what&#039;s new and what&#039;s not, so scans the whole calendar before syncing)

Otherwise, I agree. Mail is great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved my domain to Google last week. Wasn&#8217;t too complicated, as the instructions were good.</p>
<p>Biggest problem is that Google Reader isn&#8217;t available under as an App…can only have it via a Google Account. And you can&#8217;t have an Account and Apps open at the same time cause the cookie gets confused.</p>
<p>Other prob is that there isn&#8217;t a clever way of syncing your Google Calendar to your phone&#8217;s native calendar. I&#8217;ve got a bodge by syncing my phone to Outlook via Activesync, and then syncing Outlook to Google, using Google&#8217;s Outlook sync exe program. (which isn&#8217;t clever enough to know what&#8217;s new and what&#8217;s not, so scans the whole calendar before syncing)</p>
<p>Otherwise, I agree. Mail is great.</p>
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		<title>By: James Cridland</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Cridland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The paid-for version (I&#039;m paying for email passthru to my old server) also has an email migration service. Point it at any IMAP account, and it just sucks the info in...

(Clue: you can go &quot;premium&quot; for less than 30 days for free, then cancel. Easily enough to pull all your email in.)

Annoyingly, there&#039;s no easy way to migrate Google Docs, etc, over.

And yes, the Google Account thing is highly complicated. I should get a Google Account under my email address (I have one, actually, just need to remember the password)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The paid-for version (I&#8217;m paying for email passthru to my old server) also has an email migration service. Point it at any IMAP account, and it just sucks the info in&#8230;</p>
<p>(Clue: you can go &#8220;premium&#8221; for less than 30 days for free, then cancel. Easily enough to pull all your email in.)</p>
<p>Annoyingly, there&#8217;s no easy way to migrate Google Docs, etc, over.</p>
<p>And yes, the Google Account thing is highly complicated. I should get a Google Account under my email address (I have one, actually, just need to remember the password)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Frankie Roberto</title>
		<link>http://james.cridland.net/blog/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/#comment-1187</link>
		<dc:creator>Frankie Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did you manage to migrate your Gmail account to your GAFYD account? I never managed that, and so occassionally I&#039;ve found myself having to go back and search my old Gmail account (which was being redirected to).

Also, GAFYD is free for me - what are you having to pay for?

The only slightly glitch I&#039;ve noticed is that your GAFYD e-mail address can also become your Google Account (for Google Reader, Google Analytics, Google Search History, etc), however I seem to have 2 Google Docs accounts, one at docs.google.com, and one at docs.google.com/a/frankieroberto.com. However, they&#039;re both associated with the SAME e-mail address (the first with my e-mail address as a Google Account, and the second with my e-mail address as a GAFYD account). Which can be pretty confusing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did you manage to migrate your Gmail account to your GAFYD account? I never managed that, and so occassionally I&#8217;ve found myself having to go back and search my old Gmail account (which was being redirected to).</p>
<p>Also, GAFYD is free for me &#8211; what are you having to pay for?</p>
<p>The only slightly glitch I&#8217;ve noticed is that your GAFYD e-mail address can also become your Google Account (for Google Reader, Google Analytics, Google Search History, etc), however I seem to have 2 Google Docs accounts, one at docs.google.com, and one at docs.google.com/a/frankieroberto.com. However, they&#8217;re both associated with the SAME e-mail address (the first with my e-mail address as a Google Account, and the second with my e-mail address as a GAFYD account). Which can be pretty confusing&#8230;</p>
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