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	<title>Comments on: Australia censors the internet. Good news, I say.</title>
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		<title>By: Frank Calabrese</title>
		<link>http://james.cridland.net/blog/australia-censors-the-internet-good-news-i-say/#comment-947</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Calabrese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 12:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems Duncan Riley is fast becoming like the person he oppose, Senator Conroy, by using his blog to launch a scathing attack on Deborah Robinson.

http://www.duncanriley.com/2008/01/02/heres-to-you-deborah-robinson-our-nation-should-maintain-free-speech-for-you-even-if-you-are-an-idiot/

I&#039;m afraid he has lost all credability now if he wishes to taken seriously over this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems Duncan Riley is fast becoming like the person he oppose, Senator Conroy, by using his blog to launch a scathing attack on Deborah Robinson.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.duncanriley.com/2008/01/02/heres-to-you-deborah-robinson-our-nation-should-maintain-free-speech-for-you-even-if-you-are-an-idiot/" rel="nofollow">http://www.duncanriley.com/2008/01/02/heres-to-you-deborah-robinson-our-nation-should-maintain-free-speech-for-you-even-if-you-are-an-idiot/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid he has lost all credability now if he wishes to taken seriously over this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy King</title>
		<link>http://james.cridland.net/blog/australia-censors-the-internet-good-news-i-say/#comment-946</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also use the Open DNS service mentioned in your post and it&#039;s proved a valuable addition to day-to-day internet use. Porn sites themselves are fairly easy to avoid if you don&#039;t click on random rubbish, but I&#039;ve also noticed a lot of seedy-looking &quot;meet sexy girls in Bolton now&quot;-type ads disappearing from otherwise clean websites since I switched DNS. (Why do they always say Bolton?!)

As far as porn and violence filtering on a national level goes, I&#039;d be broadly in favour if it was adopted in the UK. The internet is a hugely beneficial development in terms of allowing almost infinite viewpoints to be expressed and discussed worldwide, but there is some content that is of no positive benefit to society as a whole. I&#039;d not shed a tear, for instance, if websites showing videos of executions in Iraq and so on were removed from public view. Nor would I be particularly fussed if the endless stream of increasingly extreme pornography was closed off; having instant access to millions of depictions of unrealistic (and often misogynistic) sexual situations from an early age can&#039;t be good for the development of a young person&#039;s sexuality.

I&#039;d even be in favour of an opt-out scheme for such filtering. However, my support would end the moment an *idea* was blocked from public view, rather than a harmful piece of content such as a violent video. Even the most unsavoury of political views should be kept in the open and discussed; it&#039;s the easiest way to see them discredited!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also use the Open DNS service mentioned in your post and it&#8217;s proved a valuable addition to day-to-day internet use. Porn sites themselves are fairly easy to avoid if you don&#8217;t click on random rubbish, but I&#8217;ve also noticed a lot of seedy-looking &#8220;meet sexy girls in Bolton now&#8221;-type ads disappearing from otherwise clean websites since I switched DNS. (Why do they always say Bolton?!)</p>
<p>As far as porn and violence filtering on a national level goes, I&#8217;d be broadly in favour if it was adopted in the UK. The internet is a hugely beneficial development in terms of allowing almost infinite viewpoints to be expressed and discussed worldwide, but there is some content that is of no positive benefit to society as a whole. I&#8217;d not shed a tear, for instance, if websites showing videos of executions in Iraq and so on were removed from public view. Nor would I be particularly fussed if the endless stream of increasingly extreme pornography was closed off; having instant access to millions of depictions of unrealistic (and often misogynistic) sexual situations from an early age can&#8217;t be good for the development of a young person&#8217;s sexuality.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d even be in favour of an opt-out scheme for such filtering. However, my support would end the moment an *idea* was blocked from public view, rather than a harmful piece of content such as a violent video. Even the most unsavoury of political views should be kept in the open and discussed; it&#8217;s the easiest way to see them discredited!</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbie Johnson</title>
		<link>http://james.cridland.net/blog/australia-censors-the-internet-good-news-i-say/#comment-945</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobbie Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t say I&#039;m all for it, James - but I am fed up with the &#039;slippery slope&#039; rhetoric of the most vocal libertarian factions online. Comparing Australia to China? It&#039;s a cheap trick, and inaccurate to boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say I&#8217;m all for it, James &#8211; but I am fed up with the &#8216;slippery slope&#8217; rhetoric of the most vocal libertarian factions online. Comparing Australia to China? It&#8217;s a cheap trick, and inaccurate to boot.</p>
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		<title>By: Fergus Pitt</title>
		<link>http://james.cridland.net/blog/australia-censors-the-internet-good-news-i-say/#comment-944</link>
		<dc:creator>Fergus Pitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 03:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading Bobbie Johnson&#039;s post about this, I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d agree with your characterisation that he&#039;s &quot;all for it&quot;.

In fact the points he raises - about the problems of implementing ISP filtering - make his post seem quite ambivalent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading Bobbie Johnson&#8217;s post about this, I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d agree with your characterisation that he&#8217;s &#8220;all for it&#8221;.</p>
<p>In fact the points he raises &#8211; about the problems of implementing ISP filtering &#8211; make his post seem quite ambivalent.</p>
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		<title>By: Over Reaction to Australia's Plans to Clean up the Internet &#124; Australian Women Online</title>
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		<dc:creator>Over Reaction to Australia's Plans to Clean up the Internet &#124; Australian Women Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] James Cridland supports the clean feed but only if it is &#8216;opt-in&#8217; and not &#8216;opt-out&#8217; as reported by ABC News. [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] James Cridland supports the clean feed but only if it is &#8216;opt-in&#8217; and not &#8216;opt-out&#8217; as reported by ABC News. [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bowie</title>
		<link>http://james.cridland.net/blog/australia-censors-the-internet-good-news-i-say/#comment-942</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Bowie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BBC also suggests that it&#039;s an opt out service.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7165987.stm

The problem them comes determining what should and shouldn&#039;t be blacklisted. I mean somebody might designate cridland.net if strong language were considered x-rated (you&#039;ve used a certain f-word a number of times on this site).

Or perhaps all of Youtube since that has videos of violence including &quot;happy slapping.&quot;

I&#039;m all for offering parents control, but it&#039;s a fine line to start walking down censoring the internet for a whole country. They do that in a lot of middle-eastern countries and China don&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BBC also suggests that it&#8217;s an opt out service.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7165987.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7165987.stm</a></p>
<p>The problem them comes determining what should and shouldn&#8217;t be blacklisted. I mean somebody might designate cridland.net if strong language were considered x-rated (you&#8217;ve used a certain f-word a number of times on this site).</p>
<p>Or perhaps all of Youtube since that has videos of violence including &#8220;happy slapping.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for offering parents control, but it&#8217;s a fine line to start walking down censoring the internet for a whole country. They do that in a lot of middle-eastern countries and China don&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://james.cridland.net/blog/australia-censors-the-internet-good-news-i-say/#comment-941</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Australia it is being reported as opt-out: http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,24897,22989956-15306,00.html

The government in the last 12 months attempted to offer another software package, predominantly american but with high level australian support.  The password protection in the program was cracked within a few hours of its release and broadcast over the net.

The introduction of this new system is in order to buy votes in our upper house of parliament from a party named &#039;Family First&#039; - their only representitive holds one of the balances of power in the senate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Australia it is being reported as opt-out: <a href="http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,24897,22989956-15306,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,24897,22989956-15306,00.html</a></p>
<p>The government in the last 12 months attempted to offer another software package, predominantly american but with high level australian support.  The password protection in the program was cracked within a few hours of its release and broadcast over the net.</p>
<p>The introduction of this new system is in order to buy votes in our upper house of parliament from a party named &#8216;Family First&#8217; &#8211; their only representitive holds one of the balances of power in the senate.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Cartwright</title>
		<link>http://james.cridland.net/blog/australia-censors-the-internet-good-news-i-say/#comment-940</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Cartwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the 2-3 stories on Google news I&#039;ve read it seems a little unclear at the moment if it will be mandatory for the ISP to provide the filters (on request, opt-in, which seems fine to me), or mandatory for the ISPs to filter every connection and people to opt-out (which is probably a bad thing).

BBC News doesn&#039;t have a story up yet, hopefully their reporting should clear this up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the 2-3 stories on Google news I&#8217;ve read it seems a little unclear at the moment if it will be mandatory for the ISP to provide the filters (on request, opt-in, which seems fine to me), or mandatory for the ISPs to filter every connection and people to opt-out (which is probably a bad thing).</p>
<p>BBC News doesn&#8217;t have a story up yet, hopefully their reporting should clear this up.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Scoble</title>
		<link>http://james.cridland.net/blog/australia-censors-the-internet-good-news-i-say/#comment-939</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Scoble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might want to do some homework. First of all, I&#039;m not furious. Second of all it&#039;s opt-out, which invalidates your whole point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to do some homework. First of all, I&#8217;m not furious. Second of all it&#8217;s opt-out, which invalidates your whole point.</p>
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