Comments on: More secure Google Apps for Your Domain http://james.cridland.net/blog/2008/03/24/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/ Radio, broadcasting, websites, and beer. Possibly. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:34:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Nick http://james.cridland.net/blog/2008/03/24/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/#comment-32554 Nick Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:46:36 +0000 http://james.cridland.net/blog/2008/03/24/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/#comment-32554 Frankie...I tried logging into Google Accounts with my Apps login. Couldn't get in. Apps logins are not the same as Account logins. Seems odd that they haven't put Reader into Apps. Or maps. There are a number of other things too that aren't available in Apps. I know it's all Beta, but sometime it's got to become proper. Frankie…I tried logging into Google Accounts with my Apps login. Couldn’t get in. Apps logins are not the same as Account logins.

Seems odd that they haven’t put Reader into Apps. Or maps. There are a number of other things too that aren’t available in Apps. I know it’s all Beta, but sometime it’s got to become proper.

]]> By: Frankie Roberto http://james.cridland.net/blog/2008/03/24/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/#comment-32552 Frankie Roberto Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:21:33 +0000 http://james.cridland.net/blog/2008/03/24/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/#comment-32552 @Nick you can have Account and Apps open at the same time - just use your Google Apps e-mail address as your Google Account. It only gets confusing for applications that are available with both types of login (ie Google Docs). You're right about syncing the calendar though - it's not that easy. There do seem to be third-party services around, but I've not used them. Interestingly, Google seem to have recently tried to integrate the calendar with the mail services more closely. @James might give that importing-via-IMAP a go. Seems a ridiculous hack though - should be an option to migrate/merge Gmail accounts. Frankie @Nick you can have Account and Apps open at the same time - just use your Google Apps e-mail address as your Google Account. It only gets confusing for applications that are available with both types of login (ie Google Docs).

You’re right about syncing the calendar though - it’s not that easy. There do seem to be third-party services around, but I’ve not used them. Interestingly, Google seem to have recently tried to integrate the calendar with the mail services more closely.

@James might give that importing-via-IMAP a go. Seems a ridiculous hack though - should be an option to migrate/merge Gmail accounts.

Frankie

]]> By: Nick http://james.cridland.net/blog/2008/03/24/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/#comment-32550 Nick Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:22:49 +0000 http://james.cridland.net/blog/2008/03/24/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/#comment-32550 I moved my domain to Google last week. Wasn't too complicated, as the instructions were good. Biggest problem is that Google Reader isn't available under as an App…can only have it via a Google Account. And you can't have an Account and Apps open at the same time cause the cookie gets confused. Other prob is that there isn't a clever way of syncing your Google Calendar to your phone's native calendar. I've got a bodge by syncing my phone to Outlook via Activesync, and then syncing Outlook to Google, using Google's Outlook sync exe program. (which isn't clever enough to know what's new and what's not, so scans the whole calendar before syncing) Otherwise, I agree. Mail is great. I moved my domain to Google last week. Wasn’t too complicated, as the instructions were good.

Biggest problem is that Google Reader isn’t available under as an App…can only have it via a Google Account. And you can’t have an Account and Apps open at the same time cause the cookie gets confused.

Other prob is that there isn’t a clever way of syncing your Google Calendar to your phone’s native calendar. I’ve got a bodge by syncing my phone to Outlook via Activesync, and then syncing Outlook to Google, using Google’s Outlook sync exe program. (which isn’t clever enough to know what’s new and what’s not, so scans the whole calendar before syncing)

Otherwise, I agree. Mail is great.

]]> By: James Cridland http://james.cridland.net/blog/2008/03/24/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/#comment-32548 James Cridland Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:48:38 +0000 http://james.cridland.net/blog/2008/03/24/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/#comment-32548 The paid-for version (I'm paying for email passthru to my old server) also has an email migration service. Point it at any IMAP account, and it just sucks the info in... (Clue: you can go "premium" for less than 30 days for free, then cancel. Easily enough to pull all your email in.) Annoyingly, there's no easy way to migrate Google Docs, etc, over. And yes, the Google Account thing is highly complicated. I should get a Google Account under my email address (I have one, actually, just need to remember the password)... The paid-for version (I’m paying for email passthru to my old server) also has an email migration service. Point it at any IMAP account, and it just sucks the info in…

(Clue: you can go “premium” for less than 30 days for free, then cancel. Easily enough to pull all your email in.)

Annoyingly, there’s no easy way to migrate Google Docs, etc, over.

And yes, the Google Account thing is highly complicated. I should get a Google Account under my email address (I have one, actually, just need to remember the password)…

]]> By: Frankie Roberto http://james.cridland.net/blog/2008/03/24/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/#comment-32543 Frankie Roberto Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:41:27 +0000 http://james.cridland.net/blog/2008/03/24/more-secure-google-apps-for-your-domain/#comment-32543 How did you manage to migrate your Gmail account to your GAFYD account? I never managed that, and so occassionally I've found myself having to go back and search my old Gmail account (which was being redirected to). Also, GAFYD is free for me - what are you having to pay for? The only slightly glitch I've noticed is that your GAFYD e-mail address can also become your Google Account (for Google Reader, Google Analytics, Google Search History, etc), however I seem to have 2 Google Docs accounts, one at docs.google.com, and one at docs.google.com/a/frankieroberto.com. However, they're both associated with the SAME e-mail address (the first with my e-mail address as a Google Account, and the second with my e-mail address as a GAFYD account). Which can be pretty confusing... How did you manage to migrate your Gmail account to your GAFYD account? I never managed that, and so occassionally I’ve found myself having to go back and search my old Gmail account (which was being redirected to).

Also, GAFYD is free for me - what are you having to pay for?

The only slightly glitch I’ve noticed is that your GAFYD e-mail address can also become your Google Account (for Google Reader, Google Analytics, Google Search History, etc), however I seem to have 2 Google Docs accounts, one at docs.google.com, and one at docs.google.com/a/frankieroberto.com. However, they’re both associated with the SAME e-mail address (the first with my e-mail address as a Google Account, and the second with my e-mail address as a GAFYD account). Which can be pretty confusing…

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