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Screw it, let’s do it

Posted on Friday, June 1st, 2007 at 8:29pm. #

A 'dingdong' tailored for your tastes

Martin Stiksel is a quiet man. He’s balding, dresses in the understated and almost scruffy casual wear of young London companies. He speaks quietly with an Austrian accent, and smiles a lot. He’s a very nice chap.

I had a public argument with him once. But he warmly greets me whenever I see him: whether at his offices in trendy North London, or at conferences. Softly chiding me for using his services in ways he didn’t forsee and doesn’t altogether approve of; asking for, and sharing, information about our businesses; thoughtfully thinking about my answers.

As of this week, Martin is also a multi-millionaire: £19m came his way this week in a new personal fortune, courtesy of US broadcaster CBS, when they bought the company he founded with Felix Miller and Richard Jones. That company, launched in 2002 and now with fifteen million users, is the music website last.fm.

Of everything that’s been written about last.fm’s sale, one point has been missed, apparently: the not insubstantial point that the company has made it’s fortune by not playing by the rules.

Commercial radio doesn’t have “listen again”, the main point of the impressive BBC Radio Player. If you’re a fan of The Geoff Show, you can only listen to the podcast, and not the entire show, music and all. And, that’s been the case with virtually every single commercial radio station. There’s no licence arranged with the RadioCentre, unlike with podcasting, so therefore it’s difficult and arguably even impossible for each radio company to pursue a separate deal. And, because there is no deal, there’s no way to “listen again” to the wealth and breadth of commercial radio output - leaving that to the BBC to exploit. This isn’t through lack of trying, I should add.

What’s possibly rather surprising is that last.fm also has no such deal. Sure, they recently - very recently - signed a few deals with Warner and EMI, but most of what you hear on last.fm’s jukebox music services is not apparently licenced. Again, last.fm has been trying to get a blanket deal for a long while, but not managed to get the likes of PPL to agree. They’ve built their business on telling the record companies to go away and come back with a deal that makes sense; and producing their service anyway. A business that, this week, was worth £142m.

So: commercial radio couldn’t get a licence, so didn’t launch new services.
last.fm couldn’t get a licence, but launched anyway, and built a great business.

It’s slightly irritating if you follow the rules and pay many millions of pounds to record companies, that the record companies appear not to take action against services like last.fm - and allow them to produce a great business while ignoring the rules. Copyright payments aren’t on the basis of an honesty tax; and concerning that the record companies see them that way. There’s no legal argument for witholding payment; there’s certainly a moral one.

I note that one station has quietly launched ‘listen-again’ services within their radio player, despite the lack of a RadioCentre-brokered deal. Could be that someone else is thinking the last.fm way too. Wonder what the record companies will do?

At the beginning of this, I mentioned I’d had a public argument with my newly-minted acquaintance. I asked him, in a Guardian conference in 2005 (three years after he launched), what music deals he’d signed. He replied to say he had not signed any deal with the record companies. I asked him whether that made him a glorified pirate radio station. Probably not the fairest of questions - but perhaps quite truthful. He quietly shrugged.

5 comments

David Jennings said at June 2nd, 2007 at 9:27am

I don’t want to cast myself as an apologist for Last.fm, but my understanding of their licensing has a slightly different spin to yours.

You write: “last.fm has been trying to get a blanket deal for a long while, but not managed to get the likes of PPL to agree”

I understood that there is some confusion in the UK over who has the rights to license a blanket deal. PPL would like to, but the distributors feel it should be them (and, again as I understand it, the weight of historical precedent is on their side).

“I asked [Martin S]… in 2005 (three years after he launched), what music deals he’d signed. He replied to say he had not signed any deal with the record companies”

But around the same time there was a statement on their site saying “Last.fm is 100% legal, paying a license fee to the MCPS/PRS in the UK, who distribute the license fee to the appropriate labels/artists.” I don’t know whether the first part of that sentence necessarily follows from the second - possibly not, and that may be why it’s not there any more - but it seems that at least one deal had been signed. Just not with a record company, but with a collecting society. I understand that different licenses/deals may apply in the US.

So could it be that Last.fm just exploited the opportunity of an uncertain/immature licensing environment for their kind of service - rather than going for a blatant “ask forgiveness, not permission” tactic. Only asking…

James Cridland said at June 2nd, 2007 at 9:51am

Normally, I don’t comment to other peoples’ comments: I’ve had my say, after all. However.

I’m aware they’ve had a PRS/MCPS deal for a long while. They don’t have a PPL licence. Being fair to Martin, he pointed that out in the conference.

This blog was concentrating on the record company side, but for those that are confused: PPL=record companies; PRS=writers and performers; MCPS=the record companies’ recording. So the only bit of last.fm’s earlier statement that was incorrect was really the “last.fm is 100% legal”; they weren’t, and as far as I understand it, they still aren’t.

There’s no confusion about whether PPL can issue a blanket licence - they can, across all their repertoire - and whether last.fm can also go direct to the record companies - they can too. Indeed, potentially PPL’s biggest worry is that, with the music industry merging into itself and increasingly being run by EMI/Warners/SonyBMG/AIM, they’re making themselves obsolete.

Finally, MCPS exists for the mechanical rights of a recording. You need an MCPS licence if you rip a CD into iTunes, for example - no, really, you do. The EU copyright directive has made it much more difficult for MCPS, and for a ‘dubbing fee’, to legally justify itself; but that’s for another time.

Frankie Roberto said at June 2nd, 2007 at 10:47am

I bet there’s umpteen local commercial radio stations doing things with music that haven’t strictly been licensed either. When it comes down to it, you have to either say ’screw it, let’s do it’, or else you can’t do very much at all.

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